With his spiritual power sealed, Jiang Cheng holds forth Sandu and places himself in front of his nephew. Jin guangyao was enjoying it now. The three often play and catch fish. I threw myself into the bloodthirsty corpses to ended everything i have done". I wish they had more scenes where LZ and WWX talked their feelings out before they got together. However, Nie Mingjue mistook Jin Ling for Jin Guangyao due to their close blood relationship, and lunged for him. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! [45], Jiang Cheng then turns his anger towards Jin Guangyao, especially after Jin Guangyao admits he had sent Jin Zixuan to the confrontation on Qiongqi Path, although Jin Guangyao maintains that he had not intended for Wei Wuxian to kill Jin Zixuan. Jiang cheng and wei wuxian's complicated relationship; Summary. Hed been blaming him for so long and the bad blood and complicated history between them runs quite deep e.g. In the end, Jiang Yanli has to carry both boys to Lotus Pier on her back, as both have injured their legs. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Based on the live action and the anime I assume his action to try and destroy the amulet knowingly causes his death and the resentful energy consumed him and tore him apart. How did wei ying suddenly (and very timely too) lose control of wen ning, and how did wen Ning again went crazy when he went to plead guilty to the lanling jin sect (also, did him and his sister not think about that possibility?)? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. She could, with time, especially once JZX takes over but that;s time JC doesn't have. November 5 But I think his second chance to cultivate a new golden core is much better anyway and he was able to find his cultivation partner because of the soul transfer ritual. ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} [1], Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian both attend the Cloud Recesses to learn from Lan Qiren. She's small-minded, bitter, jealous - a vicious bitch, through and through. No, he doesn't hate Wei Wuxian, but I don't think the brotherly love is there anymore. And for wei we know for sure that they did hundreds of soul summonings after his death but never once did they get a response. Manhua [56], Hikaru Midorikawa (animation, audio drama, web series). Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Wang Zhuocheng (adult)Huang Zhenchen (child), snd lit. JC is the only survivor of his blood linage. [12], In the aftermath of the massacre, Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian find themselves fugitives as they travel to the Meishan Yu Clan to find Jiang Yanli. Oh boy can I redirect you to the Jiang Cheng character study thread? Also wei wuxian refuses to answer when asked what happened. After certain events, even though he did originally want to keep to hating Wei Wu Xian and blaming him for everything - when the big bad appeared and more things were revealed, Jiang Cheng tried to shift the blame to said villain. When one of them dies before the other at the age of eighty-three, leaving the other to mourn, the one remaining, waits to be reunited with his love. About her political standing, Jiang Yanli marries into the position of Jin-Furen, wouldn't she have the same amount of authority as Madam Yu or Madam Jin? Unable to sleep their first night, Wei Wuxian slips away from the Cloud Recesses to purchase the renowned wine Emperor's Smile. I feel like we could have seen a lot more growth from WWX, but because his emotional struggle wasnt explored, I feel he didnt really grow as a person. Previously:Qinghen. No resolution for WWX and JC. MXTX, can't you just throw me a bone here? Jing Wnyn wn night yn to chant Courtesy Name However, once Wei Wuxian appears and begins to battle them, Jiang Cheng realized that Jiang Yanli is also present. And to those who like Jiang Cheng I hope you . [1], This, along with the fact that Jiang Fengmian holds Wei Wuxian his first night at Lotus Pier, causes Jiang Cheng to initially resent Wei Wuxian. He 'hates' WWX more as a reflection of his own shortcomings / circumstance and because he's not the most emotionally mature and can be capable of avoiding the easy route of blaming the most convenient person. In the novel, he leads the siege on burial mounds that results in WWX's death. Jiang Cheng is then captured and forced to seal his spiritual power. In the original novel : WWX actually commit suicide. They've both had to deal with losing literally everything with the added weight of their entire sects on their shoulders. To kill Wei Wuxian because of anger, Wen Chao does the worst thing that he ever does to anyone. So I think he still loves WWX in the way that people love their siblings no matter what. Did Jiang fengmian love Jiang Cheng? "You are anxious. Welcome to r/MoDaZuShi! JC knows WWX would never, but the rest don't. He was willing to be tortured to death for him and still stood by him even after WWX publicly humiliated him/their sect, acted like an ass for "no reason", abandoned their sect to protect virtual strangers. Trauma is not excuse, for refusing to return the debt to people who saved his life, he instead knowingly chooses to lead a siege against them, like if nothing else, honour your sisters sacrifice? [10][11], Jiang Cheng is injured when Wen Zhuliu intervenes, and Wang Lingjiao sends off a signal for the Qishan Wen Clan to attack. I mean come on @author, imagine the pain you could have made us readers feel! Powerful as they are, death comes for everyone. [3] Still, Jiang Cheng occasionally participates in some of Wei Wuxians mischief, drinking forbidden liquor and looking at pornography alongside Wei Wuxian and Nie Huaisang. In retribution, Jin Guangyao reminds Jiang Cheng just how easily he had allowed his jealousy and pride to keep him from protecting Wei Wuxian. So it's definitely that he believed WWX is still somewhere out there and secretly misses his bro. But the most compelling for it to be suicide is that Wei wuxian himself made it clear to Xue Yang that a soul who has no desire to be in this world cannot be summoned back. [43] He forces Jiang Cheng to pull the sealed sword from its sheath and reveals that Wei Wuxian had given Jiang Cheng his Golden Core. In the past, Jiang Cheng cared . Anywaysif JC wanted to kill WWX, he would have done so then and he wouldn't just leave him with Fairy when they met afterwards. He stabs Wei Wuxian, and Wei Wuxian commands Wen Ning to break one of his arms. But I think a lot of people ignore the politics of everything. This leaves me with the question about how did Wei Wuxian actually die? [52], The audio drama adds a scene of Jiang Cheng's infamous inability to connect with women. So maybe you can try that? ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} He took the Wen Reminants, a political move JC literally cannot protect him from, thus forcing them to stay apart even though WWX swore many times to always be by his side. theres many theories. [30], A female innkeeper in Yunping City confirms this account, as she tells Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji that she knows a person who once approached Lotus Pier to help him deal with a problem. [44], Jiang Cheng verbally lashes out at Wei Wuxian, prompting Lan Wangji to warn him to "spare some virtue. I actually have the same question as to how he died. I can't really speak about Chinese culture, but maybe differences here could explain why some of this was glossed over. For 16 years, he has never wanted Wei Wuxian to come back. And then JGY does it again at the temple and blames him for everything that happened to WWX (which is pretty inaccurate). Probably a little scratch would do. In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. Tags. Yunmeng Pride Twins have a complicated relationship but I am sure of one thing, the name of the relationship won't be something negative such as "hate" or "enemies" etc. Eventually, he releases his martial brother and breaks down in tears. [51], He learns of the golden core transfer after the Guanyin Temple incident, and they leave before he breaks down in tears. Absolutely. ._2ik4YxCeEmPotQkDrf9tT5{width:100%}._1DR1r7cWVoK2RVj_pKKyPF,._2ik4YxCeEmPotQkDrf9tT5{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}._1DR1r7cWVoK2RVj_pKKyPF{-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center;max-width:100%}._1CVe5UNoFFPNZQdcj1E7qb{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:4px}._2UOVKq8AASb4UjcU1wrCil{height:28px;width:28px;margin-top:6px}.FB0XngPKpgt3Ui354TbYQ{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:start;align-items:flex-start;-ms-flex-direction:column;flex-direction:column;margin-left:8px;min-width:0}._3tIyrJzJQoNhuwDSYG5PGy{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;width:100%}.TIveY2GD5UQpMI7hBO69I{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;color:var(--newRedditTheme-titleText);white-space:nowrap;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis}.e9ybGKB-qvCqbOOAHfFpF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;width:100%;max-width:100%;margin-top:2px}.y3jF8D--GYQUXbjpSOL5.y3jF8D--GYQUXbjpSOL5{font-weight:400;box-sizing:border-box}._28u73JpPTG4y_Vu5Qute7n{margin-left:4px} According to Wen Chao, Jiang Cheng screamed and pled for his core, but his captors did not care. After 16 years later, Mo Xuanyu from Mo residence sacrifices himself and bring Wei Wuxian back to get revenge for him. The spiritually weak Wei Wuxian was tortured and thrown into the Burial Mounds by Wen Chao of Qishan Wen Sect, from where he returned . Since he was "seventeen already" during the massacre at Lotus Pier, he is approximately Wei Wuxian's age only a few months younger (Courage, Part). But, Jiang Cheng may have wanted to somewhat mend their relationship or at least reconcile with Wei Wu Xian though he doesnt know how to go about it, what with all the history between them o-o. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} That's why he felt broken at the end. And the way he's told about the golden core is the most cruel way you can possibly tell someone about it: he's publicly humiliated and it's used as a weapon to tell him that he's worthless and stupid. [14], Jiang Cheng becomes the leader of the Yunmeng Jiang Clan and begins recruiting disciples to join his clan and their rebellion against the Qishan Wen Clan. "Wei Wuxian, what are you trying to do?" "That's kind of you, Clan Leader Jin, but I won't sit. In my interpretation, Wei Ying realised that if he didn't let him go, Lan Zhan would fall as well so with all his strength he threw Lan Zhan's arm up and let himself fall to save him. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} before (or even as he was) dying he destroyed the amulet. [1], As a child, Jiang Cheng has three puppies named "Jasmine," "Princess," and "Love. And if he did hear summons over the 13yrs and ignored it why did he answer this time? And throughout the novel, Manga and Anime she is not the type of person to take things lying down and is a fierce Cultivator who knows how to put those who she deems . Because he's his brother and he KNOWS his brother. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works [9], Wei Wuxian then promises Jiang Cheng that when he becomes clan leader, he will serve as his right-hand man. He probably turned against himself with guilt by that point. Read chapter 15: please help me from the story i time Travelled by MaissaBiaa (Marinette Cheng) with 3,244 reads. I dont think hes ever actually hated him, did he want to hate him? three poisons; a Buddhist phrase for the root of all turmoil (greed, anger, ignorance) shngshu skilled practitioner WWX did a lot of things that JC rightly resents and feels betrayed/abandoned by him for. I got different feelings about those things in the different media adaptations. Ultimately, he kept his mouth shut, because his pride had finally become less important to him than WWX's feelings. More helpful answer: From JC's POV, WWX did a lot to personally betray him: his actions stirred the wrath of the Wen Sect leading to the death of his parents and Sect. Even after he killed his brother in law, although he did not go to comfort him like JYL did, and he did agree to the anti-WWX alliance, he didn't attack WWX. In the second part, they are adults, and they don't realize that they may be in danger (Jin GuangYao and the Jin sect in general is much more insidious than the Wen sect). When Jiang Cheng attempts to save Wei Wuxian, Jin Guangyao stabs him in the chest. He has a bad temper from his youth, and his father treats him distantly, holding him fewer than five times that he can remember. Ahhhhhh. Anyway, I just have to remind myself that the author doesn't actually owe us anything so I'll just have to make do with what she gave us. The animation changes the storyline quite alot as things take place in different places. Lan Wangji then insisted on taking Wei Wuxian with him to the Cloud Recesses, and Jiang Cheng has no choice but to let him go. Since Wei Wuxian's parents died, he grew up in Jiangjia, so he got to know Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli. He also suggests that she ask Wei Wuxian to choose a courtesy name for her future son. 7.6 (175) Rate. I'm more anxious. Even during the period he was apparently hurting demonic cultivators, that desperation is born from love, need and longing, not hate. [42], Wei Wuxian angrily denies their relationship and falls unconscious when the three engage in a fight. I also think he definitely 100% loved WWX at least in the past. Wei Wuxian brings Jiang Cheng to Yiling to meet Baoshan Sanren, ordering him to keep his blindfold on at all times and introduce himself as the son of Cangse Sanren. Even if JC shouted that to the whole world, it wouldn't matter simply because WWX blindly gave his golden core to JC. JC has a lot to process, a lot to swallow. The Author knows that Jian Cheng will be detested. I just watched the donghua version of the Founder of Diabolism, and I am still confused about how did Wei Wuxian die. In the novel, he gets chased by Fairy while looking for Jin Ling to fix the curse, which is how he runs into not only . Mobile Game JC had almost no time at all to process this information by the time they met at the temple. Known as the Yiling Patriarch (, Ylng Loz), Wei Wuxian died in the First Siege of the Burial Mounds thirteen years prior to the start of the Novel. He follows his Wei Wuxian to the ancestral hall of their clan and confronts Wei Wuxian about his role in the deaths of Jiang Fengmian, Yu Ziyuan, and Jiang Yanli, as well as his relationship with Lan Wangji. When it comes to how the novel addresses WWX's darker emotions, part of me wonders if there are likecontextual or cultural things that get lost in translation? He finds it creepy. I'd have to argue that Jiang Wanyin know's it isn't Wei Wuxian's fault, even he knew the Wen's were going to come anyway, Cloud Recesses had been burned down, the war had been declared, "In his heart, Jiang Cheng knew clearly that back in the care of the Xuanwu of Slaughter at Dusk-Creek Mountain, even if Wei Wuxian hadn't saved Lan Wangji, the Wen Sect would have found some reason to come . Yu Ziyuan is infuriated, and turns her anger on her son when he defends Wei Wuxian, reminding him that Wei Wuxian still surpasses him in cultivation. September 22, 2018 35m. Why would he be searching for him in the first place if he really thought WWX was really and truly dead? [55], After the Guanyin Temple incident, Jiang Cheng reflects on how he once sacrificed himself for Wei Wuxian and also includes a heartfelt wish for his martial brother to live well. Hikaru Midorikawa (animation, audio drama, web series) If you look at JC's actions, if he truly hated WWX and wanted to kill him, even before the golden core he could have easily murdered him with Zidian or tortured him if he wanted to, he specifically chose not to because he can't because he loves him, imo. When Wei Wuxian died, it had only been nearly three months (Chapter 79) after Lan Wangji hid Wei Wuxian in the cave, fought 33 Lan sect elders and was subsequently punished severely. Someone here has a theory that Nie Huaisang saves and locks Wei WuXian's soul in secret. [9], Jiang Cheng expresses his frustration that Wei Wuxian has gained the glory of killing the Xuanwu of Slaughter, while he suffered the less-sensational but arduous journey to find rescue. [27], Jiang Cheng allows the survivors to return to Lotus Pier to recover their spiritual power, and did not forbid Wei Wuxian from accompanying them. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Jin Zixuan ( short meta sentences ) Marriage: 19-23 It would be hard to not resent WWX after all that, and theres definitely some complex emotions between the two of them. To their surprise, they discover that Wen Chao has fled and that most of the Wen cultivators have already been killed, including Wang Lingjiao. I think he rather believed its not over, as much as Lan Zhan. I can't point Sandu at that old friend anymore. It reminds me of Goro Akechi in Persona 5 in terms of the fans who don't like him being reductive of his trauma. But we'll see when they complete all 3 seasons . He has little manpower, no experience, minimal coffers, and the human equivalent of a nuclear bomb that everyone either wants or wants to destroyed. Thank you!! No Archive Warnings Apply; Ln Zhn | Ln Wngj/Wi Yng | Wi Wxin; Ln Yun | Ln Szhu & Wi Yng | Wi Wxin & Wn Nng | Wn Qingln & Wn In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. Remember that at the very end, he wanted to tell WWX about how he also made an unspoken sacrifice, how he hadn't run off to seek revenge, but had run out to distract the Wens from WWX. When Wei Wuxian (Xiao Zhan) is adopted by Jiang Fengmian (Lu Jiangmin), Jiang Cheng becomes Wei Wuxian's new brother. He hated those people and felt WWX was siding with his parents murderers. For Jiang Cheng is more difficult to know because we don't see his point of view that much, but it is obvious how heartbroken and betrayed he feel everytime his brother choose other people over him. A subreddit dedicated to fans, by fans, of all versions and adaptations of Mo Dao Zu Shi! WWX was in a bad metal state, and Jin Zixuan, a person he disliked and suspected of being in cahoots with the mob trying to kill him was advancing on him. He coordinates with Lan Xichen and Lan Wangji to retrieve the swords of those who had attended the Wen's training and carried Wei Wuxian's Suibian alongside his Sandu. This could be MXTX being very subtle and leaving readers room to interpret, or it could just not be what she wanted to focus on. As for the thirteen years of Wei Wuxian's death, Jiang Cheng captured, tortured and murdered demonic cultivators he suspected were possessed by Wei Wuxian; Lan Wangji collected and preserved the little things that reminded him of Wei Wuxian, honoring him and continuing to keep him in his heart, just as he did with his mother after death. Even if JC told "WWX i lost my golden core to protect you, you brat!" Jin Ling, however, returned the weapon and fought the corpses with Suihua, despite Jiang Cheng's frantic worry for his safety. [11], When Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian return that night, they find the entire clan massacred, including Jiang Fengmian and Yu Ziyuan. he doesn't love him either. They were like brothers before everything after all. [36], Jiang Cheng sarcastically greets Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji outside Golden Carp Tower. 185 cm After finding everything out its clear he wouldnt have wanted to fight anymore because he had nothing left to fight for and he only ever fought for others anyway, never himself, yet everyone he knew or would fight for turned against him. He then reveals that he has brought Wei Wuxian's flute Chenqing and tosses it to him. I think the author provided enough explanation on Wen Ning going beserk. (Topic ID: 1803424) [37], After over a hundred junior disciples, including Jin Ling, are kidnapped and taken to the Burial Mounds, Jiang Cheng leads a second siege against the Yiling Patriarch. ive even had a theory of my own from the anime series and such. Also known as the Yiling Patriarch (, Ylng Loz), he died in the first siege of the Burial Mounds . Like I said at the beginning, the more he waited the angrier at WWX he got. Wei Wuxian made a face in his direction. But the way Wei WuXian was acting, it seems, the Whole cultivation world going to doom alongside him. [15], When Jiang Cheng returns down the mountain, he cannot find Wei Wuxian, who has been caught by Wen Chao. If Wei Wuxian regained consciousness he would need his presence more than anyone's else. [39], As more corpses approached, Jin Ling wished for Jiang Cheng to comfort him, but the closest Jiang Cheng came was giving his nephew Zidian, much like his mother had given it once to him. However, he said that it doesn't matter how he died. IMO, i agree that Wei Ying committed suicide. "Shush.